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Can a flatness callout reference a datum?

Last updated 10 August 2026

No. Flatness is a form control and takes no datum. A frame with a datum on it is non-conformant under Y14.5-2018 section 6.3.1.

A perpendicularity with no datum looks obviously incomplete, so it gets caught. A flatness with a datum looks entirely reasonable, so it does not, and it is equally wrong. The surface is either flat within the zone or it is not; nothing else on the part enters into it.

If what you actually want is a surface that is flat AND oriented, that is two requirements and it takes two frames, or a profile control that carries both.

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The frame⏥|0.005|A
ControlFlatness
FamilyForm control
Datum referencenot allowed
Diametral zonenot allowed
Material condition modifiernot allowed
Legal under ASME Y14.5-2018no

Open this case in the calculator, and change the numbers.

Computed by ctrlPlanner. ASME Y14.5-2018.